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You say that like I ever will... [Feb. 26th, 2010|10:06 pm]

It really amuses me that this guy was so concerned about this "MAN'S GAME" I'm playing, when I followed the above conversation with a train ride into New York City to meet with my agent and editor for breakfast and lunch dates respectively, both of whom are totally awesome WOMEN, who work with lots of other wonderful comics people, quite a few of whom are--guess what--WOMEN. Pff. Man's game, indeed.

Speaking of:

Girl Comics #1 from Marvel is coming out soon, and I'm really excited to see it in person! I'm so thrilled to have a story in a book with these artists, as many of them have, themselves, been my own personal heroines for years. In fact, Ming Doyle (_ming) and I went to a summer art program together when we were 17, where I began my serious awe of her wicked skillz. Preview her amazing story for the book HERE!
Oh my Townsend Misery Sister, we're in a book together at last!


I'd really like to start serializing my recent comics on a wordpress/comicpress site, to try to make a little money from advertising, and organize myself a little better. My website will be the main hub, to host my earlier comics and the stuff I do outside of this usual format, as well as my videos and music. This new site will be updated (and linked from here) with my regular new comic things, to keep them in order and all together.

But Wordpress really confuses me, as well as the Google Ad stuff, and I could use some help!
Any kind souls want some free commission artwork as a trade for setting this stuff up for me?
Also on the offer for web guidance and assistance: My delight with your brilliance!

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[User Picture]From: irisamelia
2010-02-27 04:17 am (UTC)
!!! Plath!

That was my favorite panel. ♥
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[User Picture]From: paperflower86
2010-02-27 04:23 am (UTC)
This so reminds me of that train ride a few years back.

I was going home from art school for the holidays and got to talking with the middle-aged woman sitting next to me. Ten minutes into the conversation she asked what I was studying and when I replied that I was an illustration-major she pulled a face as if she'd bitten into a lemon. She then proceeded to tell me that she herself worked for an employment agency so she knew first hand how horribly difficult if not next to impossible that career path was and advised me to change my major as it was not too late for me yet.

I was completely floored.

Also hi, I've been lurking on your LJ for a few weeks now and have enjoyed reading your comics ^_^
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[User Picture]From: jasonturner
2010-02-27 04:25 am (UTC)
Those uninformed friendly advices are terribly strange. And then also the other uninformed side where they say "Oh you should go work for Walt Disney..."

The last panel there is great.
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[User Picture]From: tarpo
2010-02-27 04:29 am (UTC)
Oh a wordpress site.. and google ads.. Thats a mans game.. very hard to break into..

Sorry.. I couldn't resist.. This reply has no other purpose
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[User Picture]From: maelie
2010-02-27 04:35 am (UTC)
Bravo, you!
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[User Picture]From: dcopulsky
2010-02-27 04:45 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure someone who's better with Wordpress and Comicpress is going to volunteer to help you, but if not, I'd be happy to help! I've built a few sites with Wordpress (including questionriot.com and conciselymagazine.com) and I've played with Comicpress just long enough to decide that I'd rather build my own Wordpress theme for a comic- so I probably won't know off-hand how to set up just what you want, but I should be able to figure it out with a bit of tinkering. I am going to be be on vacation for the next couple of days though.
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[User Picture]From: ygolonac
2010-02-27 04:49 am (UTC)
King of pies! that ain't no easy row to hoe, take my work on that, yo!
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[User Picture]From: mattious
2010-02-27 04:51 am (UTC)
You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science.
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[User Picture]From: lucylou
2010-02-27 04:52 am (UTC)
I'd rather have a small brain than a mean one! Or a mustachey one.
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[User Picture]From: unsecretcrush
2010-02-27 04:52 am (UTC)
Unsolicited old-man advice is pretty baffling and sometimes infuriating. While waiting (a very, very long time) to meet a date at a diner, an old guy at the table across from me randomly said "I bet he's runnin' around on you." He then proceeded to regale me with tales of his own teenage exploits, dating two girls at different schools, who eventually found out about each other when they both showed up to cheer him on at a basketball game.
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[User Picture]From: _ming
2010-02-27 04:57 am (UTC)
Lovely comic with a whole lot to relate to (for a fellow uppity comics-minded lady like me, at least) as usual, Ms. Knisley! You are the inspiration. :')

I AM SO PROUD OF OUR LITTLE RISD SELVES FOR REACHING FOR THE STARS AND ACHIEVING OUR DREAMS. I mean, sure, our dreams may not get us yachts or palatial estates or all the yummy food and drink out there, but... um. THEY'RE GOOD DREAMS, OKAY? Good dreams, and true. ♥

Also, go go bein' published in the same project powers!

Edited at 2010-02-27 04:58 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: maeths
2010-02-27 05:34 am (UTC)
Frankly, I already think of you as a successful artist. You've definitely created/settled up a style of drawing and story telling. You've gotten your work out there to the general public and been published. Anything after this is just additional awesomeness that is going to occur (as it is pretty obvious that you have a reasonably decent career ahead of you).
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[User Picture]From: ygolonac
2010-02-27 06:21 am (UTC)
Did you draw the background on your lj? It's cool.
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[User Picture]From: the_s_guy
2010-02-27 06:36 am (UTC)
I was just struck in the Marvel panel by the fact that both Tony and Jen seem to be having great fun. Although it's a little tricky to determine Tony's exact expression with the moustache.

That, and the casually upended helm full of money. LOLtastic. :)
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[User Picture]From: thelivingrobot
2010-02-27 06:36 am (UTC)
Who is Lynda Barry?
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[User Picture]From: finkenstein
2010-02-27 06:42 am (UTC)
Wordpress is a bitch! I have been thinking of using this plug in instead of comicspress:

This comic is fantastic Lucy!
I totally love what Lynda has to say about the separation stuff. I feel like part of being an artist is sometimes never "growing up" in that way and it's been a major theme in my life. I never wanted to stop drawing, even if things didnt turn out the way I wanted them to all the time. It's kind of the way kids think they need to stop dressing up for Halloween to be an adult. Screw that noise! Being an adult doesn't mean striving for some unattainable boring existance it just means being responsible. In my opinion we have a responsibility to be childlike sometimes.
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[User Picture]From: evin
2010-02-27 08:32 am (UTC)
I was totally going to trundle in here and be all "Dude, eff Comicpress, use Wecomic instead. I think I saw Jess Fink even talking about it a while ago!" and here you are.

That said, Webcomic is way easier to use than Comicpress. In both cases, if you want to get hardcore about shit, then you're probably just best to make your own theme or whatever anyways, but at least Webcomic can handle all the syndication and archiving and category-ing and shit. And the beauty of Webcomic over Comicpress is that it will easily let you run as many strips/whatevers as you want on the same site from the get-go, AND you can individually style them if you want. I'm still working on stying the pages for my actual comics (spent forever fighting with the main page - still a pretty big newb when it comes to actually futzing with CSS and PHP and soforth) but the main page is at least sortof an example of what can be done, even by someone who barely knows what they're doing. -> http://tranive.ca/
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From: fusis
2010-02-27 07:48 am (UTC)
Are you having trouble installing wordpress or using it?

Installing it is "easy" up until the point where they say, "Oops, do something complex with your database."
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From: fusis
2010-02-27 07:49 am (UTC)
What I was trying to say was, if you have a question, you can direct it my way. I have a Wordpress-expert who would be more than happy to help. We also do quite a bit of Google Adding around here.
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[User Picture]From: joedecie
2010-02-27 07:52 am (UTC)
I'm thirty three and I have similar conversations on train stations, Sometimes with people younger than me. Maybe those of us who draw project our youthful vibrance.

I recently made my website using comicpress. I found it reasonably easy to set up but reasonably difficult to customise exactly how I wanted. Invisible people on forums helped me; I think if I found someone to work with me face to face, the whole process would've been quicker.
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[User Picture]From: porpus_terroris
2010-02-27 08:06 am (UTC)
I think for most, saying you want to be a cartoonist or an illustrator, etc, is akin to saying, 'Right now I'm working on becoming a movie star.' Many take it as a kind of fanciful ambition, that it's naive and maybe a sign of idiocy... Because of this I'm always reluctant to tell people I'm aiming to get into illustration work, I rarely tell people. In reality though, I think there's truly not a great deal of difference between a cartoonist's ambitions and those of a carpenters or a plumbers. They're not so far removed from one another, as I see it.

In your place though, I'd talk as though I had already achieved this goal. You're already working. Plus, I live in Bendigo, a small country town in Australia, and 'French Milk' is at my local library, that has to mean something as to how you're going, I think.
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[User Picture]From: pyoor_excuse
2010-02-27 08:46 am (UTC)
I think you've already got better offers, but I've done a few wordpress setups in my life; and run a couple of (very lightweight sites these days) - and more usefully have a bunch of friends who do a lot more hardcore web stuff, so I can call on them for questions :)

So if everyone else falls through - here's another offer :)
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From: (Anonymous)
2010-02-27 08:47 am (UTC)

My Name Is Christopher, now I'm not Anonymous.

I just wanted to take a quick moment to say two things:

I really enjoy your comics, and where ever you may take them, I'll make sure to bookmark and visit often. (Sidebar, I miss your cat drawings)


The Tony Stark in that image totally looks like the Minnesota Vikings player Jared Allen -> http://www.everyjoe.com/emqb/files/2008/04/jared-allen-closeup.jpg
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From: tigrejones
2010-02-27 08:56 am (UTC)

possible source of help!

hi! my old man knows his way around customizing a wordpress site and has set up google ads, and would be happy to help a feller out. he's also played around a lot with drupal; i don't know if that helps with comics. so if you have comic-wise people, might be better, or if you want local people. but otherwise, he's an option!
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From: tigrejones
2010-02-27 09:07 am (UTC)

Re: possible source of help!

oh you can email him at quixote@aftercorbu.com! forgot that part :)
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From: heroftime
2010-02-27 10:06 am (UTC)
Oh gosh, this cracked me the hell up.
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From: strangebeasts
2010-02-27 11:06 am (UTC)
I suffered a similar talking to by a lady at work who seemed to be incredibly misinformed but still took it upon herself to tell me I was wasting my time pursuing an animation degree, in the end I gave up, smiled and agreed that I'd study to become a doctor to shut her up. After that I drew a doodle of her pooping herself with stink lines and flies buzzing around her.
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[User Picture]From: austinthecowboy
2010-02-27 12:37 pm (UTC)
Don't give up on your dream of becoming the KING OF PIE!

I really like this one. Very insightful. My sister (who is in art school now) has had to deal with a lot of these attitudes, especially from my parents. She is talented and determined, so why shouldn't she be able to kick ass as an artist?
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[User Picture]From: skullyflower
2010-02-27 02:05 pm (UTC)
If anyone can make it as a working cartoonist, you can. I really admire your work. Keep listening to Linda, she'll keep you on the right track.

That guy probably gave up on his dreams a long time ago to "make it in the world" and just wanted company in his despair.
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